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Overview

Overview

Weiss is a character that specializes in setups, having a tool for every situation. Whether it's using her long reaching rapier attacks to fight up close, firing ice shards to attack from afar, summoning ice pillars to block projectiles and limit the opponent's ground movements and using her semblance to do attacks that cover a lot of ground quickly or for some more tricky options, Weiss has a tool to fight comfortably in any situation.

At the same time, these tools all have very clear pros and cons. For example, her normals often have long reach but don't hit in a wide arc like Ruby's normals. As a result, a lot of Weiss' tools need to be selectively chosen to deal with a specific problem. To get the most out of Weiss' vast toolset, you'll need to train yourself to properly recognize situations and use the appropriate tool to handle it.

While her buttons can be oppressive, Weiss is highly susceptible to pushblock, having few options to get back in on the opponent without ending her turn or wasting resources. It can be difficult for her to maintain pressure without using committal options that can be stuffed out.

Semblance: Glyphs

Weiss' semblance allows her to set magical glyphs around the stage by using her Drive normals, holding different directions to control the location the glyph is spawned at.

• By tapping the D button she will place a White Ice Shard Glyph, which launches a projectile after a delay before disappearing. The timing of the shot depends on the version used.
• By holding the D button she will place a Black Gravity Glyph which can then be used during Glyph Dash Strike or Snowfall, by pressing (or holding down) 8A, 8B, or 8C once she is in close proximity to a gravity glyph. These glyphs won't disappear unless a new glyph of the same type (near/far/air) is used.

give Weiss additional options to follow-up her Glyph Dash Strike special with 3 specials that make use of the glyph, all with vastly different uses depending on the situation at hand.

Weiss also has access to a set of special moves that consume 25% Heat. Similar to Jin Kisaragi, all of these specials use the D button.

Overdrive

Weiss' Overdrive powers up many aspects of her semblance. Enhancing some moves that utilize glyphs, and giving her some new ones to boot. Not all of these are explicitly tied to the D button

• Weiss no longer has to pick between Ice Shard or a Gravity Glyph. Using any D normals will summon both on top of each other. All white glyphs created during OD will fire the Ice Shard on frame 70.
• Weiss can cancel into 8A Twisting Air Step, 8B Piercing Air Step, or 8C Pirouette from any normal on-hit or on-block assuming a black gravity glyph is nearby.
• Instead of Ice Pillar, 22A/B becomes Ice Shatter, a freeze attack similar to Jin Kisaragi's 2D.
• Gains access to 8D Glyph Step, which works similar Izanami's hover, allowing Weiss to extend combos and blockstrings.

Weiss is a mid-range setplay character who uses her long normals and burst mobility to control space and create setplay opportunities with her semblance or 22A/B/D.
Pros	Cons
Long-ranged normals Great pressure tools Good defensive tools Proficient corner game Land cancels allow her to extend combos, continue pressure, maintain momentum, and/or stay defensive One of the few characters with a frame 4 reversal option(22C) Can use Ice pillar to wall out specific characters and force an approach(22A/B) Fantastic corner carry	Projectiles track but can miss easily Steep learning curve; requires a good understanding of neutral and proper execution to play Anti-air can be unreliable against specific approaches Aside from glyph follow-ups and j.C (In specific matchups), has no real way of opening opponents guard without using risky options (IAD in, glyph, etc.)

Weiss Schnee

Health: 11000

Prejump: 4F

Backdash: 23F (1~7F full invul)

Unique Movement: Arched Forward Air Dash
                 Glyph Step

Reversals: 

Abare Options: 5A (7F)
               2A (7F)

Fatal Starters: 6C
                Ice Shard

Normals

5A

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
375	All	7	3	12	-1	Body

• Jump cancellable on hit.
• Startup is two frames faster than 5B, and can OTG.

Secondary poke tool. Unlike 5A, can hit some crouching opponents such as Makoto 2C and Kanji 2C. Can cancel into 2A on block, allowing for her to chain into her A normals (5A, 5AA) to prolong pressure and force the opponent to make a decision. It being a 7 frame option allows for her to contest stronger round starts (Mitsuru, Ragna) and hit low profiling moves (Yosuke, Linne).

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5B

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
640	Mid	9	3	19	-5	Body

• Jump cancellable on hit.
• Excellent horizontal poke.
• Excellent round starter, being able to hit most characters at round start.

5B is your primary poking tool boasting good reach and fast startup. Unlike 5A, it's hitbox only covers Myrtenaster, meaning it will whiff on many crouchers and low profile attacks.

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5C

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
800	Mid	14	3	21	-5	Body	7~18 Head

• Jump-cancelable on block and on hit.
• If cancelled into from 6B, frames 1-6 are skipped

A primary anti-air tool for Weiss, the animation for 5C deceptively makes the range look longer than it is. However, due to Weiss stepping forward before the slash its effective range is nearly as long as 5B . Be careful when using this in a blockstring or combo. As it is susceptible to barrier and it will whiff when linked from a max range 5B unless you're in the corner.

It struggles against anything directly above her, and is easily whiff punished.

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2A

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
300	All	7	3	12	-1	Foot

• Jump-cancelable on block and on hit.
• Chains into itself 3 times like most 2A.

Larger than average range for a 2A; one of Weiss' greatest tools. During neutral you'll want to mix this with 5A against a grounded opponent to keep them from getting up, close and personal. One of Weiss' strongest pressuring tools, as it allows for potential TRM setups/tickthrows, frametraps, and even callouts.

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2B

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
700	Low	12	3	18	-4	Foot

Low poke with really good range. Mostly used either during blockstrings or extend combos. Not so much a move to consider while in neutral (especially if the enemy has super meter), as it hits really low and may leave her wide open if jumped over. Unsafe on pushblock.

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2C

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
800	Mid	13	3	27	-11	Body	11~16 Head

• Jump-cancelable on block and on hit.
• Has the same range as 5A.
• On-hit allows for safe Glyph setup.

Weiss leans forward and performs a wide sweeping slash. Slow startup, and a small hitbox.

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Command Normals

6A

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
777	Low	12	3	23	-7	Foot

• Great in land cancel combos

Weiss jumps forward before dropping low and stabbing with Myrtenaster. The jump travels relatively far horizontally and goes further with momentum.

Although it can only be cancelled into from 5A and 2A, 6A is a great fakeout tool when used in stagger pressure. On hit, this move sends the opponent sliding, making it a decent combo ender [or extender with black glyphs]. Weiss can choose whether or not she wants to set up a glyph/pillar or safejump afterwards, making oki ambiguous.

On Counterhit, Weiss can setup a black glyph AND still have time to chain into 214A/B/D Glyph Dash Strike, leading into massive damage.

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6B

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
500, 700	Mid	12	6(2), 3	16	-4	Head, Body

• Provides a dragdown effect. Stabilizes air confirms and allows her to chain into other normals without worry.
• Can buffer an input to cancel into 5C or 3C, skipping the first 6 frames of each.

Weiss leaps forward whilst backflipping and kicks down hard on the landing. Horizontal jump distance increases with distance from the opponent and can go more than half screen at max range. Weiss' main way to resist barrier, 6B is a staple of combos and blockstrings alike.

The damage shown in the above table is unscaled. If both hits connect it does a maximum of 836 damage.
The startup shown in the above table refers to the first hit. The second hit always happens when Weiss lands, the timing of which can vary if used during Glyph Step.
The active frames shown in the above table can be a bit confusing. 6(2) means that the first hit lasts 6 frames continuously, but is divided between 2 frames of animation, each lasting 3 frames. The 3 refers to the second hit.

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6C

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
880	High	23	3	6+15L	-2	Head

• Land cancellable
• Fatal Counter
• Because Weiss is airborne, most lows will miss.

Weiss' only standing overhead. Sends the opponent sliding on hit.

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3C

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
800	Low	16	3	27	-11	Foot

• Has the same range as 5A
• Great combo ender, allows for safe glyph setup on hit

Weiss leans forward and performs a wide sweeping slash.

6C is Weiss' main combo ender when she isn't cashing out. Allowing her to safely place a glyph or 22A/B Ice Pillar in time to meaty the opponent's wakeup.

NEVER use this on block. 6C has slow startup, and a surprisingly small hitbox, making it reactable and susceptible to whiffing at mid range.

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Air Normals

j.A

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
300	High	7	3	15		Head

• Double-jump cancellable on block and on hit.
• Chains into itself 3 times, although the range is such that hitting even 2 before landing is difficult on most characters.

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j.B

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
700	High	11	3	28		Head

• Double-jump cancellable on block and on hit.
• Can crossup
• Your go-to jump-in normal
• Can cancel into j.6B by just pressing B.

Unlike j.6B, she hits downwards. This is a move you'll want to keep in mind more often, as it is the stronger overhead, crossup tool, and combo extender compared to j.6B.

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j.6B

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
500	High	9, 16	7, 5	16		Head, Body

• Double-jump cancellable on block and on hit.
• Extremely active, making it a great air to air.
• Can cancel into j.B by just pressing B.

Weiss stabs straight forward, leaving a lingering hitbox as she holds out her sword. The second hitbox can multihit, and also covers her leg which can lead to character specific combos. Due to how long the move lasts, it is extremely likely that you will land before it ends even if used while rising, making it effectively more plus on block. This makes it j.6B excellent for facilitating air-ground block pressure

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j.C

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
600	High	13	3	Until L+21L		Head

• Slightly propels Weiss up if she is falling beyond a certain speed. As Forward Air Dash moves her upwards, she can use this after IAD for great jump-ins leading to land cancel pressure.
• Causes a hard knockdown on hit, making it essential for routing.
• Is an IOH in some matchups, but whiffs on short characters.
• +1 if land cancelled.

Once inputted, Weiss must commit to this move until she lands. However, with the power of 214A/214B landcanceling, you can omit this rule and act freely as desired. 17 frame overhead, and offers high/low potential in specific matchups. From this point, you can land-cancel (214~x A/B). Can confirm rising hit with land cancel 5A or 6B, and can go into heavy damage if a Black Gravity Glyph is nearby.

Learn to land cancel and dramatically expand your offense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_D0biRm_-Q

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Drive Normals

Close Glyph

2D, 4D (Chargeable)

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Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
700	All	12	Until Hit	Total:40		Projectile

• Only 1 Close Glyph can exist at the same time.

Ice Shard (White Glyph) Press D

• White Glyphs summon a projectile that tracks the opponent.
• Close White Glyphs lock you out of using 2D and 4D until they disappear.

2D and 4D shoot the shot on frame 60 and 70 respectively, making 2D the fastest out of all of Weiss' drive versions. This is somewhat offset by the fact that they will likely spawn farther from your opponent. These traits can be used to make certain approaches safer by having the Ice Shard cover your startup or recovery.

Gravity Glyph (Black Glyph) Hold D

• Black Glyphs are the resource required to use Twisting Air Step, Piercing Air Step, and Pirouette.
• Black Glyphs last forever, but don't lock you out of 2D or 4D. Instead, they disappear when a new Close Glyph is placed or when consumed by 8A , 8B or 8C.

[2D] and [4D] are incredibly useful midscreen oki tools. Forcing the opponent to face glyph pressure on wakeup or roll. It can also be used to enable quick approaches with 8A , 8B or 8C when backed up by an Ice Shard. [2D] should be your go to when placing a Black Glyph.

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Far Glyph

5D, 6D (Chargeable)

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Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
700	All	12	Until Hit	Total:40		Projectile

• Only 1 Far Glyph can exist at the same time.

Ice Shard (White Glyph) Press D

• White Glyphs summon a projectile that tracks the opponent.
• Far White Glyphs lock you out of using 5D and 6D until they disappear.

5D and 6D both shoot the shot on frame 90, which is the longest out of all of Weiss' drive versions, making it even harder to use these in neutral. This is somewhat offset by the fact that they will likely spawn closer to your opponent. The long startup also makes it useful for block pressure after oki, especially in the corner.

Gravity Glyph (Black Glyph) Hold D

• Black Glyphs are the resource required to use Twisting Air Step, Piercing Air Step, and Pirouette.
• Black Glyphs last forever, but don't lock you out of 5D or 6D. Instead, they disappear when a new Far Glyph is placed or when consumed by 8A , 8B or 8C.

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Air Glyph

j.D, j.2D (Chargeable)

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Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Frame Advantage	Attribute	Invulnerability
700	All	12	Until Hit	Total:40		Projectile

• Because Weiss is airborne, most lows will miss.

Weiss' Crash Assault. On a 4A, 5A or 5B CH, she can convert into 5C, gaining free meter on a MARVELOUS! hit. She can get jabbed out of it easily due to the hop and flash startup, so try to use this move as sparingly as possible.

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Universal Mechanics

Ground Throw

5B+C Template:BBTag Move Card

Air Throw

5B+C Template:BBTag Move Card

Counter Assault

5A+D Template:BBTag Move Card

Crush Trigger

5A+D Template:BBTag Move Card

Specials

Glyph Dash Strike

214A/B (Chargeable) Template:BBTag Move Card

Glyph Dash Triple Strike

214C Template:BBTag Move Card

Snowfall

j.214A/B Template:BBTag Move Card

Snowstorm

j.214C Template:BBTag Move Card

Twisting Air Step

8A during select moves Template:BBTag Move Card

Piercing Air Step

8B during select moves Template:BBTag Move Card

Pirouette

8C during select moves Template:BBTag Move Card

Ice Pillar

22A/B Template:BBTag Move Card

Ice Summon: Sword

22A/B Template:BBTag Move Card

Precision Parry

22C Template:BBTag Move Card

Glyph Step

j.8D Template:BBTag Move Card

Ice Shatter

22A/B Template:BBTag Move Card

Distortion Drives

Glacial Torrent

236B+C Template:BBTag Move Card

Snow Flurry

214B+C Template:BBTag Move Card

Astral Heat

White Night

222B+C Template:BBTag Move Card

External References

• Color Palettes on https://blazblue.wiki

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